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« on: October 31, 2013, 10:34:57 »

Bought this neo several years ago, but only recently got it stressed enough to bloom with full splendour. Any suggestions as to which cultivar. I think it might be 'Tourmaline' but can be wrong too.

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« Reply #1 on: October 31, 2013, 20:31:03 »

It could be 'Gespacho', Conrad. It's one of the few that goes whitish like this in the centre on flowering.
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« Reply #2 on: November 01, 2013, 08:47:00 »

Not Gespacho. I had a sample to look at not so long ago. Gespacho has more red and is more blotched than the bold purple and pale cream of this one.

This plant when grown in the slightest of shade looses all colour when flowering. I now grow it in full sun and with limited water. Should make a nice display as an epiphyte.

Thanks for the info.

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« Reply #3 on: November 01, 2013, 20:09:46 »

Gespacho is VERY variable between clones in it's colouration and markings, Conrad...don't give up on it just yet ;-)...As I said, it's the only common neo I can think of (apart from the true species nivea) that goes pale/white in centre when it flowers.
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« Reply #4 on: November 05, 2013, 07:33:57 »

Thanks graykiwi. I will keep it in mind. I have gone through the whole FCBS neo cultivar list and could only get "tourmaline" as a maybe. It could also be one of our local growers plants that have not been registered. It is quite an ugly plant before it starts to change into flowering stage. Then the purple bold blotches appear and the white banding. It does require full sun for a real show. It does stick out in a garden when flowering.

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« Reply #5 on: November 05, 2013, 07:49:29 »

I am almost 100% sure that it is the same as one of mine called Neo DC 95 (not registered). It came from Sherwood Jungle nursery and that is the name that was on the pot. I got mine many years back when the nursery was still going strong and selling lots of bromeliads.

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« Reply #6 on: November 06, 2013, 10:01:21 »

Neo DC 95! Very possible. I got mine with no lable or name tag. Any ideas od who was the breeder? Thanks Craig. I have been cross pollinating and will see what it will produce.

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PS Craig, I still need to come and visit you sometime!
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« Reply #7 on: November 06, 2013, 14:12:49 »

Ja I reckon Craig is spot-on...
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« Reply #8 on: November 06, 2013, 23:14:55 »

Hi Conrad

I have no idea who the breeder was. I also find it to be an interesting hybrid which I have also done a few crossings with. Seedlings are still young, so only time will tell.

You are welcome to visit Conrad.

Dennis, congratulations on the registration of your special hybrid. Looks great.

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« Reply #9 on: November 07, 2013, 10:13:19 »

Thanks Craig!
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« Reply #10 on: November 07, 2013, 11:56:22 »

Conrad

This looks very much like Neo Allure.  I do not have good pictures of it, but I do have one taken a couple of years back that looks almost exactly like yours. I can e-mail it to you (have a bit of a problem with Photobuckit so I cannot post it here).  The one shown on FCBS is also not a very  good example.

Definitely not Gespacho. I do not know DC95.

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« Reply #11 on: November 08, 2013, 10:48:50 »

Thanks Craig, Dennis & Japie.

Japie, I did initially look at allure, but the colouring was exactly opposite. where "allure" was pink this one was white. More white centre with a violet banding. Not the rose' of "allure".

This one looks like it might have some marmorata or chlorostica parentage with some faint mottling on the leaves in the pre flowering stage. Perhaps even some caynea. "Allure" looks like it could have more consentrica.

But any thing is possible. ...

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« Reply #12 on: November 14, 2013, 07:26:30 »

Here are a couple of extra Photos. One juvenile plant and one for comparison.
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here next to "Pink Sunsation"

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« Reply #13 on: November 14, 2013, 18:49:41 »

I don't have an ID, but I just want to point out that the banding pattern you are seeing may be caused by weather conditions, rather than being a consistent identifying trait of the cultivar. 

It looks to me as if it may have N. burle-marxii in the mix, but not necessarily.  Some chlorosticta hybrids can look like that too. 
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« Reply #14 on: November 15, 2013, 07:36:58 »

Thanks Lisa,

I think Craig has the best name as I did buy my plant from the same nursery. Unfortunately the person who owned that nursery has since passed away and I could not get any help with the staff remaining there.

Weather conditions here have been hot and humid for a month or two. Not much in temperature changes. My previous attempts to grow it in some shade produces very disappointing flower. No whitening or purple banding, just the mottled dull red of the juvenile plant.

They still amaze me....

I am grateful for the help and wisdom, Lisa.

Best wishes,

Conrad
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