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« Reply #1 on: July 03, 2012, 05:23:36 »

H. argentina?   Tongue

Looks like a type of H. glomerata or of that group.  Any accompanying info?
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« Reply #2 on: July 03, 2012, 07:19:59 »

Well.... Bought it as H. argentea. Shipped from Hawaii.pup offa a whitish stressed Hechtia.
Looked interesting. Hadn't bought a H in some while
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« Reply #3 on: July 03, 2012, 07:52:46 »

Oh.  Then who knows?  I am really wondering if H. argentea is not just a super-duper ecotype of H. glomerata.***

***Disclaimer: total random speculation.  This is not based on any measurements or actual 'real' studying of the plants.  Much will need to be looked at to really investigate such a broad, grumpy momentary rant***

I should start selling random plants as H. argentea...then just claim that I bought it from a famous nursery (they must be right!) as H. argentea.  That seems to be the standard story for so many plants that I have seen.  I'm getting sick of people then telling me, "how dare you say that 'so-and-so' is wrong".  This rant isn't in response to the Hawaii source, but in general (and eastward).  I pretty much refuse to buy anything anyone is selling as 'argentea'.  The ones I have either grown or seen labeled as such (from nurseries/ebay) don't even come close to matching.  The one I was almost hopeful about bloomed this year and is very definitely not the true thing.  A nice plant, but not even close to argentea (other than being a lateral blooming plant).
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« Reply #4 on: July 03, 2012, 15:04:24 »

Speaking as a Lumper in this area....all I can add is H. Argentina ..works for me
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« Reply #5 on: July 03, 2012, 16:18:41 »

Ha ha...it is a pretty safe bet!
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« Reply #6 on: July 03, 2012, 17:14:32 »

I am not sure if you are familiar with the mysterious Dyckia Brittle Star and all the f1, f2, f3 etc. (There is a ORIGINAL BS for sale on Ebay from Baker's neighbor that says she/he is selling Baker's NFS plants)

I think I want to create a bigeneric H.argentea and Dyckia Brittle Star. Think of the stories I could tell.
True story... Baker did hold my H. argentea for about 10 minutes (it was in a 10"pot at the time - it was a long time ago) and said it looked like the real thing.
So maybe I got some BS pollen from back then.......hmmmm
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« Reply #7 on: July 04, 2012, 07:51:04 »

Oh, well I have a Brittle Star F11.  SUPER RARE!  ha ha ha ha.  I'm working on some bigenerics...but BS F2 is the closest I can come to trying that...
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« Reply #8 on: July 04, 2012, 13:05:52 »

You guys got female Hechtias to play with? Going the other way might be a huge pain as you might have to wait a year or two to figure out if the cross took and it didn't just self. I tried crossing a Pitcairnia with a Hechtia and 20 months later I'm still not sure if I did or didn't cross them.
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« Reply #9 on: July 04, 2012, 16:25:59 »

Wow, you still can't tell?  I don't know if that is a good sign.  I have been using female Hechtias with Dyckias, Deuts, and Puyas. I should try other genera, but I can't think of anything else that would interest me.  My Pitcairnias are just now starting to bloom and I'm not sure if any of the Hechtias still coming into bloom are going to be male or female.  I can tell that some of my Deut x Puya and Deut x Dyckia crosses worked as the plants are already showing variability...and I think they are around that 20 month mark.  I'll have to go look at my tags.  I am so far behind putting seed down--and I am about to have another huge round of crosses to sow.  I think I am going to need more space!
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« Reply #10 on: July 04, 2012, 17:57:02 »

I haven't made enough Pitcairnia bigenerics to be an expert but they seem to be very dominant.
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