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Author Topic: Cultivar name for a variegated cruenta ?  (Read 3047 times)
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« on: May 04, 2012, 06:14:15 »

Got this in the mail today , and google has failed me , and no way am I gonna trawl thru millions of cv. names .. someone must now .
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« Reply #1 on: May 04, 2012, 19:38:51 »

I don't know what it is, but it doesn't look variegated to me.  It just has striated scurf (kind of like N. Bird Rock, but it's not that).  Sometimes seedlings will come out with that, or it can occur as a sport. 

BTW, if you have some parentage information, you don't have to go through every photo on FCBS or the BCR.  Just use the search engine and enter "cruenta" as a parent.  I did that and didn't find a match, but just FYI for next time.  I'm not so sure about it being cruenta either, though.  Doesn't look quite right to me. 
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« Reply #2 on: May 05, 2012, 00:17:57 »

It is a cruenta. I had it years ago. Tropiflora and Michael's both sale it as cruenta silver variegated. It was from the Wally Berg collection. If it is a very stiff leaved plant that leans toward having narrow leaves thats it. It will take a lot of sun to keep it looking nice.

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« Reply #3 on: May 05, 2012, 12:36:44 »

I bought this one as Neo cruenta silver. Jen
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« Reply #4 on: May 05, 2012, 12:44:58 »

Lisa,

You are right; it is not truly variegated.

I don't believe that it is registered, the patterning is caused by the spines scraping the scurf and it does remind me of Birdrock as well.

It is getting around on the web under varying forms of Neo Silver Cruenta variegated (from Wally Berg collection).

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« Reply #5 on: May 05, 2012, 16:45:51 »

Interesting.  That's a nice looking plant, Jen.  Cruenta it is, just one I hadn't seen before.   
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« Reply #6 on: May 06, 2012, 02:15:41 »

Thanks Lisa. Don't think it's very common out here either. Rick and I were just lucky enough to get it from Olive Trevor's.
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« Reply #7 on: May 06, 2012, 09:37:32 »

XCLNT pic Jen , and thanks Rick for a great pup .
And I have now learnt of a few choice variegated forms of cruenta that are around also .
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« Reply #8 on: May 06, 2012, 10:03:57 »

I've been watching these with interest.  My 'silver var.' one is slowly acclimatizing to my conditions and I hope this summer it will start to really shine like Jen's.  As for Jaline...I've been seeing it called more 'white' than Goldilocks...mine sure is yellow! It definitely looks no where close to being the same plant as Goldilocks.  The leaf shape seems quite different even if they are both 'yellow'.  Odd that it was apparently white variegated when collected.  Now I guess I have to add Goldilocks onto my list (this list seems to grow much faster than I can handle...).  These tough full sun lovers are the kind of plant that I love!
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« Reply #9 on: May 07, 2012, 05:04:56 »

Hey Andy,

Happy hunting!  My 'Jaline' is yellow too and can take a good bit of a cook, quite a bit more so that 'Goldilocks', which I find bleaches and burns a lot more easily in full sun.  Id be interested in other's experiences with these two plants, but from what I've seen so far myself it's another reason why I'd question calling them the same cultivar.

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« Reply #10 on: May 07, 2012, 17:01:04 »

Okay, thanks Paul.  If it can't handle the heat of the sun I might pass on getting one (unless I stumble across a good deal).  I'm still finding several 'Florida full sun' Neos don't always hold up to my full sun.  So far I am having pretty good luck with all of the carch's and the handful of their progeny that I have so far.  But several still will still have to prove themselves this upcoming summer.  Only some clones of cruenta seem to be able to handle the sun and I wonder if those clones were the parents of some of the 'full sun' stuff that I have trouble with...

Speaking of, looks like Tropiflora likes following the discussion of the online sources as their weekly list includes Goldilocks this week.  Ha ha.  Good to see they pay attention and respond to people's interest.
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« Reply #11 on: May 07, 2012, 19:20:22 »

I posted this picture on Facebook (where most of the Jaline/Goldilocks discussion seems to be taking place), so I might as well post it here too.  Goldilocks in front, Jaline in back.  I don't see how anyone can call them the same clone.  Huh

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« Reply #12 on: May 08, 2012, 00:14:17 »

Here are Goldilocks and Jaline in my garden this spring. Goldilocks will lose it's gold color when it gets really hot in late summer here.You are not allowed to view images.
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« Reply #13 on: May 08, 2012, 05:39:07 »

Yep, those pictures tell exactly the same story as my plants.  Perhaps if Geoff Lawn picks this up?
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« Reply #14 on: May 08, 2012, 05:53:58 »

Thanks for posting those here guys.  Give a good sense of the plants.  I can't follow threads on FB...the discussion and photos lose context and can't be kept together.  ...and not to mention other things I don't like...
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