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« on: October 18, 2011, 03:06:20 »

Hello all,

I stumbled on some Alc photos that I took about a year ago (Sep2010); shortly thereafter I increased the pot size from 200cm to 300-400cm and increased my application of slow release fertiliser from @1 Tablespoon to @ 6 Tablespoons - I'm fairly happy with the results, the color has washed a little as it warms up here but a month ago it was similar to the before shots.

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« Reply #1 on: October 18, 2011, 05:21:48 »

Hey Rick,

I was expecting to see something like a gravel mulch around your plants, so I guess you're raking it in?  Grin

On the serious side, can you hand over the secret of what slow release you are using?  I suspect it's a commercial grade.  I keep reading the labels on all the retail packs I come acrosss to see if I can find something reasonable, but they are all high N with very little P & K and are all so similar I find it difficult to imagine that any plants would notice the difference.  I thought I had found one a while back that had a better looking NPK ratio than most (16.3.12 from memory) but it included a quick-boost component that really distorted the growth of some of the plants I used it on.

So, I'm still looking for something decent in containers less than 20kg!

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« Reply #2 on: October 18, 2011, 05:22:27 »

Rick, by the way, those Alcs are looking great!
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« Reply #3 on: October 18, 2011, 11:29:37 »

Rick, nice collection of Alcs. The fertiliser has definitely given you a huge effect. What was the NPK of your slow release?
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« Reply #4 on: October 18, 2011, 12:01:49 »

Paul/Mitch,

I'm using Nutricote 70day 14-6.1-11.6.

I had to buy it in a 20kg bag over here; I don't think the Alcs particularly care what slow release you use but I found some of the cheaper fertilisers were causing bolting and severe burning on my other other Bromeliad types.

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« Reply #5 on: October 18, 2011, 22:43:28 »

Rick, I thought it would be a balanced NPK. Like you I like the look of the effect that this fertiliser has had on your Alcs. It seems to be perfect for probably the last re pot before maturity. I think a balanced NPK is the way to go from seedling to mid size, and this will gradually wear off over the next 18 months. Thereafter I'd favour lower N, mid P, and higher K foliar or ground fertilising if there's not enough natural food happening. What fertilising regimes do the other expert Alc. growers on the forum perscribe??
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« Reply #6 on: October 18, 2011, 22:55:05 »

Nice looking Alc. Rick. I'm testing your 14 - 6.1 -11.6 and a 11- 4- 18 to see the results. As you said the cheaper stuff can burn.
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« Reply #7 on: October 19, 2011, 04:48:55 »

Hi Rick,

Thanks for the info.  That 14:6:11 is a much better balance than the retail packs around (why can't they do a few that are really different?).    That 11:4:18 that Brod is trying looks interesting as well.  Maybe I should get a 20kg bag and leave most of it in my will! 

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« Reply #8 on: October 19, 2011, 09:32:47 »

Hi all

I use  6 or 9 month Nutricote like the one above (High K) mixed with Native Nutricote (no P) and a balanced Basacote with trace elements. I also add Dolomite, urea and rock phosphate to the mix and even some chook poop pellets to keep the pinebark composting. No great science, just dump of this and that. Seems to do the job though the nutrient load is nothing compared to what the commercial guys like Greenstock use!!! It really depends on how fast, leafy and big you want to grow your broms.

Cheers, Pedro

PS A 20kg bag pasts me about a year but I am semi-commercial I suppose and have a lot of plants. The big Neos like root feeding too.
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« Reply #9 on: October 19, 2011, 13:03:42 »

Gorgeous Broms, Rick,  where do you guys purchase the fertilizer that you use and how expensive is it?Huh  A friend of mine uses Dynamic Lifter and her broms are huge, does anyone else use this smelly fertilizer?Huh?


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« Reply #10 on: October 20, 2011, 00:33:22 »

Nice work Rick they look great.

I have just brought some slow release fertiliser with a NPK of 16:3.5:10. I was also told it is a biological release fertiliser, which means it wont dump all its nutrients on a hot day. I might take some picks of what they look like now so I can go and see how they go. Also any suggestions on how much I should give my Vriesea's, Ill just try a different amount on them all. and just read on the packaging that it is a granular wetting agent, so it will stick to the potting mix even when it falls over.
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